In this episode of the SoulStream Living from the Heart podcast, Rod sits down with longtime spiritual directors Sue Vander Woude and Doug Schroeder to explore the art of spiritual direction.
Together they talk about how they each discovered this work, how contemplation slowly reshapes a life, and what it means to live from the heart rather than the head.
They share reflections on listening, presence, freedom, and the quiet transformation that happens when someone finally has a safe place to be fully themselves.
Resources Mentioned
“Working the Angles” by Eugene Peterson
The writings of Henry Nouwen
The writings of Richard Rohr
Thomas Keating’s teaching on centering prayer
The Spiritual Exercises of Ignatius
Centering prayer groups and contemplative prayer gatherings
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